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Issam Houshan signeture Riqq

Faisal — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:49:36 GMT

Hello friends,
I am posting this because Issam has made a Riqq in Syria.
It is the same kind of Riqq with hardware for tuning on the out side. The quality of work is great all around. He made sure that every detail is taking care of. I got one from him the moment he showed it to me. You can check with Issam directly through his website to see pictures and prices. He has only 11 of them and they all have different designs and colors. Each Riqq comes with a costume made bag with his name on it, plus an extra head and a tuning key. I think the price he is putting on it is affordable. These are test Riqqs, he will make more if people were interested in them and he will always keep the quality work to the most.
Thank you all,
Faisal

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Anyone have or try the Remo Soloist EXTERNAL tuning doumbek?

Scott — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:15:19 GMT

NOT the internal tuning clown colored one! Hehe.

I spoke to someone that has external tuning soloist and he says the dums are lower and tek's crisper compared to his friends regular internal tuning (clown) soloist.

I know people here have been saying the tek's just arent as good as an aluminum drum but I also havent seen anyone make that comparison playing the external tuning version either. So please let me know if you have layed a finger on one of these drums.

Thanks
Scott

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Cool new darbuka articles at Fingers of Fury!

fingersoffury — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:54:39 GMT

Hey everyone, there are a whole lot of new dabuka related articles on the Fingers of Fury site....check them out! There are also teachers resources and drum solo's there as well;-) Matt
http://www.fingersoffury.com.au
http://www.darbukaplayer.com
http://www.fingersoffury.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96&Itemid=16

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Sphynxshop/Egyptcart...

fungus — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:45:06 GMT

Does anybody know what heppened to Sphynxshop/Egyptcart... they seem to have vanished.

Their web site is parked, they're not on eBay and they don't answer email...

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Remo fiberskin head for a Meinl He-3012

Ganeshillo — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:05:31 GMT

Hi people.
I want to put a fiberskin or renaissance head in my Meinl. I am sure you guys will know which head size and/or model is the proper for my drum.
Here in Spain I can´t buy this kind of head so I´ll buy by Internet, do you know some good store for buying this stuff?
Thank you very much for your help.

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Super Saidi vid

DaveMachek — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:40:26 GMT

Hey, gang. Long time no type!

Just put up an instructional vid on a "super-saidi" type riff. I know most of you already know this, but thought I would post here just in case someone can benefit from it.

I am still figuring out this whole webcam uploading thing, and I got some weird time-skips in the beginning of the vid, so any advice on that point is welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/darbukadave

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whenever

Oskar — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:21:22 GMT

you think you should buy a better drum just watch
http://www.youtube.com/user/djambouree#p/a/f/2/HKqny6Brrus

and keep practicing :-)

have fun and enjoy!

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Bass Drum build

Zach — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:52:51 GMT

I was in process of making a davul. I found a bass and tom at the thrift store and had a credit at the music store for new heads. So being new at rope tuning and set backs at sourcing materials it was put off a year. So a week ago I needed a bass drum for a fire show this weekend and decided to put all the hardware back on. The tom sucks and I was thinking about if it could be turned into muzhars. But the bass is a different story. It sounds awesome. If you are wanting to play davaul, this is not helpful at all. Or if looks is a big concern as in looking authentic. It sounds great so that is my main concern. And nobody will be looking at the drummers when people are setting things on fire and swinging poi around their heads.

Here is a helpful list:
The shell is a 22'' Pearl with some sparkly laminate. It is thin and sounds good. I found it for $28 / the tom. It has the big metal hoops with are not at all right for a making a davul, but for hitting with a beater it is fine and you can hit the hoops with no risk of breaking the shell.

The heads that were recommended to me are Aquarian super kick 1 and 2. They are great and more of a heavy kick sound like in dance music. Like a big round punch. This is more what I was looking for than some of the types of remo heads. These heads are a soft clear plastic with a black border and a white foam ring which is a good addition.

Tuning. I reused the hardware and stumbled across something. Half the tuning pegs when missing so I make a quick decision to use 4 on each side and go buy the rest the next day. It is adding to the sound I think. I am sticking with 4 per side because it is possible it allows it to vibrate in a different way-more openly? It is detuned low and is a really full sound, I stopped after the head was at tension-no crinkling left. We were messing with my friends old bass drum as well and took out 4 pegs/side it did improve the sound and make it more of a 'thump' rather than the kick sound for rock.

Beaters. I bought the biggest, heavy one I could find. It is a Vic Firth with an extra long handle and a large ball covered in felt, just a single. It is not for speed but a big bass tone. Also I bought Vic Firth marching band bass sticks with hard white heads and a heavy shaped stick sold as a pair and I am experimenting with different sounds on the high side.

I have not heard anybody describe a build like this and hoped it might help. It is cheap, makes a great low low bass tone on account of the size and thin shell with less pegs, detuned Aquarian heads, and a extra heavy mallet for a beater.

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High Quality Doumbek/Darbuka Drum Heads (POWERBEAT/MITELLO)

FerHat — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:25:14 GMT

Hi @ all,

I just wanted to inform all who are looking for high quality drum heads that I have some to offer in different models and sizes. These are exactly POWERBEAT/MITELLO drum heads but just without any logo on it. They are so to speak the "neutral" versions. In my profile you can find the pictures of the models.

1.) NORMAL SIZE (playing diameter 8,66" (22cm))
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- black
- black double oily
- white
- transparent
- transparent double oily
- fiberskyn (lamb imitate)

2.) SUMBATI SIZE (playing diameter 9" (22,86cm))
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- black
- white (with the POWERBEAT logo)
- transparent
- fiberskyn (lamb imitate)

3.) DOHOLA SIZE (playing diameter 26cm))
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- black
- white
- transparent

All sizes fit on egyptian doumbeks which have the same diameter sizes.
Price per piece: 5 Euros (plus shipment costs - different from country to country, so please ask first)

As I have not so much pieces on stock it can happen that your desired model is already sold out. In this case you can enlist as a waiting customer for the next whole order which I will do after I have enough quantities of the customers.

Payment is via Paypal, so you don´t take any risk. Satisfaction 100%ly guarenteed!

To order, just do this steps:
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2.) Mail them to me and also tell me your name and adress. Then I will give you the shipping costs information.
3.) You confirm the order with the complete price and pay with Paypal.
4.) Your order will be sent as quick as possible, you will also get a tracking number.

If you want to tune up the sound of your drum these drum heads are a must!

So just contact me via tribe, icq or msn:
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MSN: ff87@live.de

If you have some questions yet just ask here for everybody. Thanks for your attention! : )

FerHat

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where does one buy a decent tabl baladi?

Shems — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:59:58 GMT

I'm helping a friend find a tabl baladi. Where do you buy them? Do there happen to be any vendors near DC? Or can they be mail ordered?

Thanks

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Am I stupid?

Oskar — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:13:23 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7z9ywj2cUk

It is told "A couple of phrases in 14/4 as part of a "Fingers of Fury" piece from tonights class. Nice and slow for y'all to learn."

I have no idea about what she is doing :-(

Some can notate the rhythm, please?

Thank you! Oskar

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Improvising

dkgoodman — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:58:36 GMT

I've only been drumming a few years. One of my challenges has been learning to improvise, or solo, and I couldn't find a lot of advice on that.

The easiest step for me was one that my teacher taught me, and it was to substitute sounds. In a rhythm like DD tkT D tkT tk there are strokes that are accented, the upper case ones. He said to substitute a slap, pop or snap for the accented strokes, especially teks. Even that was hard for me at first, but it soon became simple.

From listening to Carmine and other drummers, I learned to substitute tk for a D, changing D T tkDD tkT tk to tk T tkDD tkT tk, for instance. I also began to switch rhythms on the fly, like alternating Baladi and Saidi.

Recently I've begun to leave gaps in a rhythm and fill them with something. After 3 repetitions of Baladi, I'll do one where I improvise either the first half or the last half of the rhythm, in between the dums. Instead of DD TD T I'll do DD roll D T or DD TD roll, or just a couple sharp flams, or whatever. I'm hoping as I get better to graduate from filling half a rhythm to a whole one. My trouble is keeping a feel of where the next one starts.

Any other tips or advice on this? Be kind. :)

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Where to buy spare riqq jingles?

Ganeshillo — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:08:08 GMT

Hi.
I´m cleaning and tuning my good old Cooperman riqq, and I´ve decide now it´s time to remove the old big hammered jingles and buy some less noisy jingles and install them in 4 of the 5 sides of the instrument, letting two pairs of the big jingles for the "¿jingle-job?" when playing. I wrote to Cooperman asking for some other models since years ago you could buy different spare jingle sets, but they answered me that:

"At this time we do not offer any other riqq jingles. We only have the standard jingles that come with the drum and are probably the same as the ones that you already own. Sorry I can't be of more help."

What could I do? I´ve seen the spare jingles of Mid-East, but I think they have not enough quality for a Cooperman riqq, maybe they´re OK for a GeF riqq. What do you think?
Thank you.

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Lexicon commentary

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:46:05 GMT

Folks, if you're not informed as to the purpose of the lexicon project, please go back and read the discussion from the beginning. Seriously, commentary about how this name refers properly to a region or people or whatever really doesn't have much bearing on the effort, unless you're offering up a name for the rhythm that we could use in place of it. and is likely to be widely observed.

We know the commonly used names for rhythms aren't the most accurate. Frankly, that's not much of a concern. We're building a lexicon so we can all know what in hell it actually is that we're discussing when we name a rhythm.

We know not everybody will like what we arrive at. We know there will still be lots of folks using different names for the rhythms. That's perfectly OK. Yes, a karsilima is a dance. However, there are a great many dancers and drummers who use the name to refer to a specific rhythm, so if that's what's commonly understood to be "karsilima," that's what we're going to call it unless given an compelling alternative.

Now, if you'd like to offer up a name to use in place of a common name, that's cool. I can always list the common (and misused name) as a reference and attach a more accurate name to the rhythm. I can roll that way. I can use alternate spellings to indicate that the rhythm is not the dance (nor the region nor the people....).

Just keep in mind that we don't expect to make everybody happy and we don't really care how accurate the names are--we're aiming for utility, first and foremost. We can offer lots of commentary in the second volume of the project and explain how inaccurate many names we use are. We're still going to describe what we think should be widely known rhythms and give them names so that we can all refer to the same rhythm.

So, if you're heavy into Turkish or Roman or Arabic or Moroccan dance and drumming, feel free to offer up information on such for the second volume of the project. Just make certain you offer up usable commentary, which begins with commonly used rhythms and useful names for those rhythms. "Among the Turkish 'stumbling' rhythms, this is the most common encountered outside Turkish circles and is most frequently referred to as 'Karcinoma'... is a useful contribution. Just saying "Karsilima is a dance..." is not useful when the discussion is aimed at providing a working vocabulary of rhythms and a very common one is most often called Karsilima.

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Lexicon: Karsilima

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:48:22 GMT

karsilama D---T---D---T-T-T-

One of the primary dance instructors 'round here insists that all three eighth notes on the fourth beat be accented. I've noticed other folks play it accenting the first two and not the third, while others accent the last two and not necessarily the first. I enjoy changing up the accents, myself, but I'm decidedly non-traditional.

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Remo Skyndeep heads

Ted — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:38:05 GMT

There has been a lot of confusion about the crown depth on the Remo Skyndeep heads, and which is the right one for your doumbek. I am a dealer of these heads (my supplier is Mid-East), and I would like to clear the air a little bit on this hopefully:

1. The diameter of the head is measured on the INSIDE of the head. Skyndeep doumbek head is available in 8", 8 23/32", 8 5/8" (8 20/32"), 9", 10", and 10" with 3/8" crown,10" with 3/4" crown, and 12" with 3/4" crown.

2. The crown measurement does NOT include the metal ring, and is the SAME on both the 8 23/32" AND the 8 5/8", which is a 3/8" (.95cm) crown. The reason that it seems like the crown is deeper on the 8 23/32" is that the head is a slightly larger diameter.

3. The 8", 9", and 10" all have a crown depth of 1/2", and are designed to fit the Remo Ergo series doumbeks exactly.

3. With the exception of the Remo ergo doumbeks, most of the Egyptian, Syrian, etc. drums will vary slightly from drum to drum. THis has caused much grief and tribulation for the doumbek owner. As you probably know, you often have to use heat guns and whatnot to make whatever head fit right. Therefore, its not the Skyndeeps that are inconsistent (as is often the case with the cheap mylar ones), but its that your doumbek is slightly different than another one from the same company. All I can suggest is that you measure carefully and patience is also recommended.

4. If you need a deeper crown, I recommend the Fiberskyn doumbek head. It has a crown (inside measurement) of 17/32" (the Skyndeeps are 12/32" = 3/8" = .95cm). The sound and feel of the Fiberskyn is not quite the same as the Skyndeep, but many people like the warmth and feel of it. They run slightly more expensive than the Skyndeep.

I hope this clears things up for you. I will gladly assist you in selecting the correct head for your doumbek. You can personally call me on my toll-free number in the US:
1-888-236-2237

Or, send me message through Tribe, or email me at EthnicSound@gmail.com

These heads and many more can be found at my business website:

http://www.globalmusicalinstruments.com/store-categories-Drum-Head_3669324.html

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Lexicon: Kuwaiti

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:52:32 GMT

Kuwaiti

Was offered up without an attempted standard definition.

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Lexicon: Hotcha

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:19:16 GMT

Hotcha D-k-T-T-T-k-T-T-| D-k-T-T-T-tktktk

Is this how we want to spell it? I'm not familiar with this one, so educate me.

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Lexicon: Kopanica

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:51:12 GMT

Kopanica: 11 beats, 2 + 2 + 3 + 2 + 2.
Examples: D-T-D-kT-T-, DkTkT-kT-Tk, etc.

This was offered up as one of several types of rhythms that are becoming popular among dancers.

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Lexicon: Khalegi

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:49:04 GMT

Khalegi/Saudi D--D--T-

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Lexicon: Jerk

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:44:07 GMT

Jerk

This was suggested earlier in the discussion. I'm not familiar with any rhythm of this name. If you'd like it included, offer up the basic rhythm, variations, and reasons why we should know it.

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Lexicon: Karachi

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:45:00 GMT

Karachi: T--kT-D-

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Lexicon: Fallahi

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:17:48 GMT

Fallahi D-T-D-T-

Ramzy explains it as simple alternating eighth note rhythm. Others play it differently.

What do we want?

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Somebody put a Skyndeep in a Hossam Ramzy Signature drum?

Ganeshillo — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:36:35 GMT

Just wondering, I really love the drum as it is, but I think the head would be more comfortable with a skyndeep (now it´s summer here and your fingers get sticky on the mylar heads), and I´ve read that a 9" skyndeep would just fit.
Unfortunately, I can´t measure the drum right now, but I´ll do it later.

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Caught on Tape Part Deux

elissa — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:56:45 GMT

Here's some recent stuff from my hafla with Souhail on May 2nd. Some cool solo stuff by Gorkem Somer and Majdi Kurd. I'm a harsh self-critic so I'll reserve judgement on my own bit. Suffice it to say I had an excruciatingly long time to think of something before my turn came up and still came up dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okpm8goBtMA

And here's a chiftitilli piece where I'm playing lead drum and Souhail is playing riqq (both cabaret and classical style). Hard to tell because someone's sparkly butt is in the way most of the time. If you listen closely, it almost sounds like Rachid knows how to play the violin. Heh.*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3SRvWwfek8

* =) (for the sarcasm-impaired)

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All the information about the darbuka - articles, lessons and store

Assaf — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:33:52 GMT

Dear Friends

I have a website which i am selling many professional darbukas drums and you can also find a darbuka movie lessons there.
Please visit the website and tell me what you think.

http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Darbuka-store

I have added also some interesting articles about the darbuka.
You can also find in my website darbuka video lessons.
This is the link: http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Darbuka-Articles

and also if you want to learn hoe to play the darbuka press here: http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Darbuka-Lessons-1

Thanks

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Question about Ayoub and Bayouk.

Charles — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:48:56 GMT

I play Ayoub as:

1 e & a 2 e & a
D _ _ k D _ T _

I play Bayouk (Bayou?) as:

1 e & a 2 e & a
D _ _ k D _ D _

From time to time I also play Bayouk as:

1 e & a 2 e & a
D_ _ D D _ T _

Are the two different variations of Bayouk both called Bayouk, or is there another name?

Obviously the Bayouk is a variant of Ayoub (or vice versa), and I know that Kartachi is another variant as well.

1 e & a 2 e & a
T _ _ k T _ D _

How many Ayoub variants are there, that are recognized as standard?

Thanks!

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11/8 Bulgarian Rhythm

Dustin — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:23:42 GMT

Hello everyone! I need help learning the rhythm of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbfW3RIUoTc
I know it is in 11/8, but I do not know what the correct pattern for an 11/8 would be.

I was asked to come to a recording session for a local Gypsy Jazz band and they want to record this and another Bulgarian song called Dajcovo (9/8). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and cheers!

Dustin

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The Dilemma

Charles — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:06:08 GMT

I have a favorite doumbek. A standard size 17" drum, made by Alexandria. It is aluminum cast, nice and thick. The inner rim is level, the bolts line up and fit snug, the outer rim has no deformities.

And, for reasons known only to the folks at Alexandria, it is covered in upholstery leather. Black, with a leather grained look, about 1/8" thick, just like a booth at a late night coffee shop.

Amazingly, it sounds great. Deep doums, nice sharp teks and kas, comfortable seating between the drumhead and the rim so that rizzes and rolls are no problem.

And, here is the dilemma: The covering is beginning to fray and tear. The glue is loosening. Disaster.

I want to peel the upholstery leather off it, sand it down and paint it, but... I am worried about the sound changing dramatically.

Do any of you have any experiences in remodeling a covered drum into a painted drum?

Thanks.

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NAFDA West - California Frame Drum Festival - Oct. 17, 2009

N. Scott Robinson — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:05:49 GMT

NAFDA West - California Frame Drum Festival

Oct. 17, 2009 at REMO Recreational Music Center in

North Hollywood, California, USA

FEATURING:

Randy Gloss
Houmon Pourmehdi
Pejman Hadadi
Brad Dutz
N. Scott Robinson
Dror Sinai
Marla Leigh
Miranda Rondeau
Hands On'semble (Randy Gloss, Austin Wrinkle & Andrew Grueschow)
Indian vocalist K. S. Resmi

$100.00 total for 5 workshops & 1 concert

Vendors: REMO & Cooperman

RESERVATIONS: nafda1@gmail.com

WEB: http://www.nafda1.com/nafdawest.php

Evening concert - JOHN BERGAMO TRIBUTE - 8 pm - open to public - $15.00 cash at door

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Denver drummers

Alex — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:27:07 GMT

Hey,

Anyone on here from Denver? I will be there November the 9th and I am looking for a way to do some drumming. I will be at the Hyatt with no car. :( But I would hate to be in the city and not find a way to meet some of the drummer I hear are so very good!

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new tubes

kobi — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:00:49 GMT

I hope you are all well and keep the bit on .
I have uploaded new you tube clips . check them on my acount name kob111 on youtube .
I will be happy to read your comments ( the good ones LOL ). much bliss . kobi
You can hear the Dohola on the clip i made with my advanced students 06/08 . 2.8 octave in range from down to high ton .
http://www.youtube.com/user/kob111
http://kobi-hagoel.blogspot.com/

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TURKU is preforming this Sunday (10/4) at DC Turkish Festival

drumfest — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:52:46 GMT

EXCITING NEWS!!!!!
Turku -Eurasian folk ensemble, is performing this Sunday at the DC Turkish Festival, Pennsylvania Avenue between 12th and 14th Streets NW, in front of Freedom Plaza and two blocks from the White House. We will performing two sets, with the first being at 11:15 am and the second set at 3 pm. This will be the first time the entire band has played together in almost 18 months. Please come on out and join in the magic. The folks in DC really know how to run a festival.

See ya Sunday...Daveed

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Play davul ...don't forget the chewing gum!

Mark — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:14:46 GMT

In case no one has seen this kid playing davul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmjQt2guHPI&feature=email

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Egypt, Sinai and UK Workshops

Chas — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:40:00 GMT

Hi - I am very pleased to announce that I will be running a Middle Eastern Music, Dance and Percussion Holiday in the Sinai on the 31st of October to 7th of November 2009 with my partner Maren Lueg and dancer Carmen Jones. Last year we travelled to the Sinai and Cairo for 6 weeks and we found a great Camp called RockSea in the Sinai run by a lovely German couple. They have invited us to run these workshops in their Geodesic dome at the camp within easy walking distance of the accommodation. After the workshop week we will be travelling to Cairo for a week or so and we are happy to help anyone who wishes to explore the music and dance opportunities which are there in abundance – performance, tuition and instrument buying etc. and how to generally deal with getting around Cairo. There is hopefully all the information you may require at my website click http://arabicdrum.co.uk/teaching_workshops.htm#Drum,_Music_and_Dance_Holiday_In_The_Sinai,_Egypt_Nov._2009_ for who we are, what is offered, costs etc. etc. I also have some upcoming workshops in the UK some of you may be interested in and I have new drums in stock for sale too – all this and more can be checked out at www.arabicdrum.co.uk
Cheers
Chas

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How Can I Replace a Head on my Rope-Tension Tupan?

Ken — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:48:38 GMT

Hi everyone. I'm new on this tribe, and relatively new to drumming. I split the natural skin head on my tupan/dawul (etc.) and am struggling with HOW to replace the head.

My drum has wooden rings with the skins rolled around them, and holes punched in them so the rope can go through by the ring. I know that Kevin Hartnell uses Remos on his rope-tension tupan, but I can't figure out HOW I would attach a Remo to my tupan since there are no holes.

Added to this problem is the fact that my drum is 40 cm in diameter. So the 16-inch Remo is too big and the 15-inch is too small.

At this point, I just want to get it fixed, so if it has to be natural skins...OK. But I am clueless. Can someone take pity on me and give me some advice on how to fix my drum?

Thanks.

Ken

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Hi All

kobi — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:51:22 GMT

Happy new year to all of you were ever you are.
my own designed clay Dohola is on it's way out so if any one of you interested you can contact me in-person .
One of my best students is in San Diego now .
He is looking for people to play with as well as teaching .
His name is Dudi and his e mail is soundofdrum@gmail.com
and another of my ladies students muved to Italy her name is Lirin meyuhas you can contact her trough facebook she is looking for students as well .
all the best kobi hagoel

http://kobi-hagoel.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/kob111

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Lexicon 3

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:22:16 GMT

I hope Tribe is working. I'm getting tired of writing messages and then getting error messages when trying to post them.

I'm renaming the lexicon to A Tribe Lexicon, as we're not necessarily all Americans.

ANyway, now to specifics...I'm going to begin posting the suggested rhythms in alphabetical order. I'm looking for feedback of the following sort:

1) Is this a rhythm that should be included?
2) How should it be spelled?
3) What is the skeleton of the rhythm?
4) What variations should be included?

I'll put each rhythm individually in a response to this message to make it easier to keep the discussion organized.

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History and current state of rhythm in Arabic Music

yannis — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:04:47 GMT

Hi,

For those who speak or read French and seek a better understanding of Arabic percussions, I recently found a very interesting article on the history, evolution and perspectives of rhythm in Arabic music from percussionist and ethnomusicologist Habib Yammine. The title of the article is "On the current state of rhythm in Arabic Music. Conservation, evolution, and interaction with other musical cultures".

http://www.mcm.asso.fr/site02/music-w-islam/articles/Yammine-2007.pdf

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Pakistani Ramazan Folk Drumming

daudude — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:30:56 GMT

so as you may know, during the Islamic fasting holiday of Ramazan/Ramadan, drummers go around and wake people an hour or so before sunrise so they can eat before fasting for the day.

this drummer is famous in NYC apparently. there is a great audio clip of him playing halfway down on the left side of the article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/nyregion/13drummer.html?_r=2&hp

i wish we had this guy here in Turkey.... our mornings are a little rougher than this when the drummers come... ; P

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Dabuka Village! presents...cyber space darbuka workshop!

fingersoffury — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:50:52 GMT

Hey there drummers, matt here from Fingers of Fury. I have started a Ustream.TV channel called Darbuka Village! and will be streaming a live darbuka-doumbek workshop on October 1st 7.30pm. Its free to attend but you will need to join Ustream.TV (free) to use the comments section and ask me any drumming questions during the workshop. Hope you can make it! For more info' please just see my latest youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhHF2SQfqYg
You can find Darbuka Village@ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/darbuka Seeya there! Matt

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of Remo's Soloist Doumbek & Issam's signature drums

Dustin — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:57:19 GMT

I had a chance to play one of these this weekend:
http://www.remo.com/portal/products/684/685/689/690/so_internal.html
And I am going to have to say that I am very impressed. The drum sounds good and is heavy. It feels a bit weird at first. I wish I would have had more time playing it. I still don't like the price of the drum $350, but like I said, I was very surprised on how good this drum sounded (at first, I thought is was because Issam was playing the drum).

BUT, Issam brought one of his signature dumbeks and was selling it for $350, and it was a way better drum! He did not say if they all come with SkinDeep heads, though. He also has a signature riq too, which a couple of us bought (I like them better than the cooperman).

Anyway, I thought I would mentioned this since Mark and a few others were curious about those Remo drums.

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I am having trouble

technition — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:29:30 GMT

Hello everyone I am having some kind of trouble on a good way to tune my Tabla. I recently decided to throw a Power Beat head on my gawharet al fan. It sounds pretty decent but I still feel like I need to get more out of it. My method of tuning seems to be not working I do the cross method..I still feel uneven. As far as live the doumbek sounds pretty ok but I know through better tuning I can get something much better. My rolls turkish rolls seem much crispy. Any suggestions.

Thanks you guys are great

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Drums for Sale

daudude — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:48:00 GMT

Hi everyone, got two for ya...

1. 50cm /19.7" Turkish Davul - Solid Walnut, natural heads(thick on beater side, thin and bright on switch side), mechanical tuners, beater/switch and soft case.

2. 35cm / 13.75" Frame Drum - Wooden body, synthetic fiber style head, mechanical tuners, soft case - small and light but very big sound.

Pictures here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=310266&id=216394645304#/album.php?aid=310266&id=216394645304

A couple people from tribe have gotten these drums and really like them. I'll give you a money back guarantee but you'd have to pay return postage. Paypal or check(in USA) for payment.

Cost = good prices + shipping. Interested? Message me....

David

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Q DRUMS 50% off Sale

Quentin — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:21:22 GMT

get dolahs$195 darbukas$150 for hammer raised fishskin $60 for fabricated steel and fishskin $70 for tabls 75$ for nakara with stand or 60 for tibla
contact Quentin 773 728 3422

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Would you devalue a Hossam Ramzy drum if it had a Skyndeep head?

ignatius-tse — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:42:18 GMT

Hey All,

I have a question. As you may know I bought Hossam Ramzy's old touring drum a few years ago. I was toying with the idea of putting a Skyndeep head on it.

Would you think by doing this I would depreciate the value of the drum because I've "tampered" with it? Not sure how the "market" would react.

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Sending your drums from one country to another.

Ganeshillo — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:41:27 GMT

Hi tribe.
I´m so scared, I´m moving from Spain to Germany for a couple of years and I´d like to have some of my drums there. I have a few vey good quality Indian tablas, and some fragile darbukas (a Hossam Ramzy Signature and a GeF), and I don´t like the idea of sending all this stuff by ordinary mail. I could kill someone if the MOP of my HR arrives damaged!
So, do you have any experience on sending your drums or travelling with tem (I though also about carrying some instruments in the flying)? any good and competent company with special treatment for instruments or very fragile things? Is it very expensive sending one darbuka?
Please give me some advice!
Thank you.

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Midi players on PC

ignatius-tse — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:53:27 GMT

Just wondering has anyone ever gotten the doumbek soundfont on Jas site working with the midi files? I downloaded a player called Spider Player I think and replaced the soundfont. Doums and Tak ka are ok but I can't get it to play Slaps or Grabs.

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Souhail Kaspar workshop

Alex — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:35:49 GMT

Souhail Kaspar will be teaching a drumming workshop in Wichita on Oct. 3 and 4. There will be a beginning class and an intermediate/advanced class both days, and there will be a rhythm and movement dance class on Saturday. Here's a link to the brochure: www.philosophicalthings.org/flier.pdf

Yeah, I know, but it really does go to the drum shop -- just borrowin' some webspace.

Alex

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Another name for this rhythm

Todd — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:12:55 GMT

Souhail calls this 'ciftitelli' on Awzan cd. It's similar to what Daveed calls his ciftitelli. Souhail plays it for a flute and a violin taxim.

1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a/1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a
D—kT—kTkD-TkT-tk/D—kT—kTkD-D-T---

It's mostly played on the riq, and the finger patterns fit the classical riq style of playing.

Y'all got another name for it?

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Ganeshillo´s Homemade Renaissance Head

Ganeshillo — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:15:31 GMT

Wel, obviously, the title is a joke.
I took an old GeF mylar head and decided to sand down the playable surface with a smooth sandpaper (800 is the number written back on the sandpaper), to obtain a non-sticky surface and a more natural feeling. Well, I am pretty satisfied with the results and just wanted to share this idea and show you some photos (in my profile). It reminds me the Renaissance heads.
You can notice some scratches, these are produced not by the sanding work but by some nuqfa playing :D, It seems that the head is now... tender? softer?..(excuse my English).
What do you think? Some of you guys had the same idea? What were the results?
Regards.

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The Tribe DTK Notation Jihad--Redux

Todd — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:04:00 GMT

I know I've posted on this before, but it's been a long while. David Reihs has joined me in this, so I'm sure he'll appreciate a repeat. If you want to post your rhythms here, and you want them to make sense, remember to follow these steps:

We all, or most of us, know what D, T, K, and d, t, k, mean.

A dash, " - " stands for a rest, equal in time value to the letters D, T, etc. Remember this, IT IS IMPORTANT.

NO SPACES ALLOWED!

A slash " / " has no time value, but it has a character value. It stands for a measure bar.

Step One:

Decide the smallest time value that you want to use, eg., 16th note, 8th note, etc. One time value equals one character value.

Step Two:

Use a word processor to type your rhythm, not Tribe. Tribe uses Verdana, and it is a proportional font. In other words, the space on the screen of each character is proportional to its size. TYPE IN COURIER OR "NEW COURIER" FONT on the word processor. It is a non-proportinal font, which means each character takes up the same amount of space on the screen and on the paper page. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE CHARACTERS LINE UP! No table is needed.

Step Three: If you want your reader to know the time signature and the time value of your notes, type the time value over the rhythm. For example, 4/4 time in 16th notes for two measures is 1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a/1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a. If you type your rhythm under that, IN COURIER, and account for every 16th of a beat with a note or a dash, they'll line up perfectly. You'll also notice quickly if you've missed a fraction of beat somewhere.

Step Four:
Copy and paste your rhythm, with the time value indication line over the rhythm, into the tribe posting window. If you need instructions on how to copy and paste, consult your word processor manual. It's under the heading in the index, ID10T.

Step Five: Notice the the characters DO NOT LINE UP IN THE TRIBE WINDOW, AND DO NOT PANIC. Refer to Step Two if you've forgotten why.

Step Six: Now it's the reader's turn. S/he will open the message, copy and paste the rhythm and the time value indication line into her/his word processor, and make sure the font is COURIER or NEW COURIER. If the characters don't line up, it's not in courier, OR, the poster has not followed Steps Two and Three. You should have consulted the ID10T section for copying and pasting by now.

VOILA! You now have a way, cumbersome, yes, but effective, to write and read rhythms posted on Tribe.

DISCLAIMER: The above instructions are not warranted against OITS errors. Please consult your ID10T section in your computer's manual for common OITS errors and how to fix them.

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Help -Where to buy doumbeks

Craig — Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:45:43 GMT

I was just wondering where the best place to buy Mother-of-pearl inlaid darbukas from. I am after a professional, well made, mother-of-pearl inlaid darbuka. Preferably to purchase off the internet. Can anyone help?

Thanks.

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Starting New Hand Drumming classes

drumfest — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:17:31 GMT

Greetings, Daveed here!
I have started accepting students for private and groups sessions, focusing on doumbek and frame drums. These classes are held at my apartment in Baltimore MD on Fridays and Saturdays. I am also looking to offer classes on-line via Skype. If anyone is interested, please contact me here or through my personal email address: drumfest@yahoo.com.

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Need a source for kevlar-core rope

DaveMachek — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:05:26 GMT

I'm going into small-scale production on davuls and I need a source for kevlar-core cord so I can evaluate the cost per drum. Anybody have a source?

Thanks!

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Types of Doumbeks?

Juanpa — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:02:08 GMT

Good day,

What is the main difference between the inner tunning doumbeks like the ones Issam plays, and the outter tunning doumbeks like Burhan Ocal plays?

I know about the weight and looks, but what about the sound, technique, origin?

Thanks, JP.

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Drum Classes

Rune — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:53:07 GMT

Hey everybody!

I finally bit the bullet and got some doumbek classes going at a local dance studio in Pinckney, MI. They're currently every other Saturday at 2:00 pm for 1.5-to-2 hours depending on how many people come and what we're covering. The next 3 classes are on August 29th, September 12th, and September 26th.

If you're interested or you know someone who would be interested in taking the classes, PM me and we'll work you in. :)

R

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NAFDA North 2 - Cooperman Frame Drum Festival - Oct. 2-3, 2009

N. Scott Robinson — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:45 GMT

NAFDA North 2 - Cooperman Frame Drum Festival

October 2-3, 2009 in Vermont, USA

$100.00 for 5 workshops and 2 concerts & tour of Cooperman Factory

Reservations: nafda1@gmail.com

Web: http://www.nafda1.com/nafdanorth.php

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS:

Oct. 2 - 3:00 pm - 5:00 pm - LOCATION #1

Tour of Cooperman Factory in Bellows Falls, Vermont, USA

Show up at this address for Cooperman Factory Tour:

1007 Route 121
Bellows Falls, Vermont 05101 USA

8:30 pm - 10:10 pm - Informal Concert / Jam Session - LOCATION #2

featuring all artists & special guests, open to all attendees

Brattleboro, Vermont, USA

Location - TBA

Free to public

Workshops: Oct. 3, 2009 - 9:00 am - 6:00 pm - LOCATION #3

The Loft & The Vermont Jazz Center
72 Cotton Mill Hill, 2nd Floor - Studio A-209
Brattleboro, Vermont 05301 USA

Pick Five Workshops

9:00 am - 10:30 am

Todd Roach - INTRO - Frame Drum Compositions

N. Scott Robinson - INTRO - Riqq Techniques

10:30 am - 12:00 pm

Todd Roach - INTERMEDIATE/ADVANCED - Frame Drum Compositions

N. Scott Robinson - INTERMEDIATE/ADVANCED - Riqq Techniques

12:00 pm - 1:00 pm - LUNCH ON OWN

1:00 pm - 2:30 pm

Patrick Graham - INTRO - Mediterr-Asian Tambourine Techniques

Randy Gloss - INTRO - Pandeiro Techniques

2:30 pm - 4:00 pm

Patrick Graham - INTERMEDIATE/ADVANCED - Mediterr-Asian Tambourine Techniques

Randy Gloss - INTERMEDIATE/ADVANCED - Pandeiro Techniques

4:00 pm - 4:30 pm - Break

4:30 pm - 6:00 pm

Matt Kilmer - INTRO/INTERMEDIATE - Lap Style / Bodhran Techniques

6:00 pm - 7:30 pm - Dinner on own

Concert:

Oct. 3 - Concert - 8:00 pm - 9:30 pm

Doors open at 7:30 pm

(Open to the public - ticket required - $12.00)

Featuring

Randy Gloss, Todd Roach, N. Scott Robinson, Matt Kilmer, Patrick Graham with guest musicians: Mac Ritchey (oud) & K. S. Resmi (Carnatic vocals)

Cooperman will have a booth with frame drums for sale.

--
North American Frame Drum Association, Inc.

WEB: http://www.nafda1.com

CONTACT: nafda1@gmail.com

MY SPACE: http://www.myspace.com/northamericanframedrumassociation

JOIN OUR GROUP: http://groups.myspace.com/framedrums

FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/nafda1

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Ya Halla Sunday Finale

Deede — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:27:17 GMT

It was great to see everyone that came for the workshops and I was sorry that not all could stay through Sunday. I have to say that Sunday's finale was beyond incredible. It was the best percussive performance I have ever seen. Issam on Sumbati and Tobias on Cajon with a mix of Call and Response and Free-style solos. Everyone was blown away. They also did a drum solo with Azizza, which the three of them had literally whipped up in about 15 minutes in the Con-Ops room.

Saturday's finale with Bozenka was also phenomenal. Tobias has been studying in India with a violin master for the last nine months. I believe he only took it up about a year and a half ago. Saturday was his first stage performance with violin and he performed like he had been studying for years! Coupled with Issam's Sumabti and Bozenka's artistic interpretation, it too was a stunner.

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Girnata

saso — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:43:37 GMT

Hello,
Does anybody have some more information of ''Girnata'', a company based in Izmir, Turkey, which produces wooden tablas. (http://www.girnata.com/)
I have never really apreciated wooden tablas, but mostly because of poor quality, not specifically because they were made of wood.
But these do look well made, altough the sound and quality could be diapointing...
Thank you.

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Percussion to LIFE

Renê — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:28:56 GMT

My dear friends, after I reevaluate my life and moral values, I decided to change my life so radically. I left the comfort and stability of the big city and I live in the interior of northeastern Brazil.
Currently I work with social projects in poor communities, one of the projects is drum circle, where I teach children to build etnics hand drums and musical instruments.
I founded an NGO, MAC - Art Culture Movement, and I am dedicating myself full time in activities and projects of MAC.
For those who want to know a little about the activities, I put two videos on youtube and the site of the NGO is ready just as in Portuguese, so I found a volunteer translator I put the English version.
Here is the url of the videos and the site URL:

MAC website >>> http://www.movimentoartecultura.com

Drum Circle Project video 1 - building hand drums >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWGECLKOams

Drum Circle Project video 2 - playing hand drums >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFrfxzqGiU0

If by chance, some of you have any instrument of percussion, hand drum, which do not use more and want to donate to our NGO I'll be grateful, just get in touch.

Very grateful for the attention

Good God bless all

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A weekend with Souhail Kaspar in Wichita, KS

Alex — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:34:01 GMT

Here's a link to the brochure: www.philosophicalthings.org/flier.pdf

Yeah, I know, but it really does go to the drum workshop -- just borrowin' some webspace.

Alex

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An American Lexicon 2

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:55:11 GMT

We need to create a list of the rhythms that we think each drummer should know and be able to play. Here's a starting list provided by Jeffrey:

"1. Maqsoum
2. Beledi
3. Saiidi
4. Malfuf
5. Khaliji
7. Ayuub
8. Karachi
9. Masmoudi
10.Chiftitelli
11.Karishlamar
12.Laz
13.Curcuna
14.Samai
15.Bolero
16.Rhumba
17.Choybi
18.Zaffa
19.Hotcha
20.Bambi
21.Simbati
22.Falahi
23. Zembekiko
24.Kalmentian
25.Nwari

Just for a start. :)"

So....do you think all of those should be included?

What should be added?

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Tuning / Fixing up a Riq?

Ron — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:45:55 GMT

Anyone have some advice on fixing up a cheap riq to sound a bit better? I bought one of the $20 tunable riqs and although it sounds okay I know it coule be tweaked a bit more. For instance, the zills sound a bit "dead" to me and I'm not sure what to do to get a more active sound out of them. Oiling the rods they spin on? Crimping some with pliers so they don't all slide together so evenly?

And any advice on tuning the head? Tune it high for a drier, crisper sound or lower for a longer, ringing doum-like hum?

There's not much info on the web for basic maintenance/tuning for these so I thought I'd ask here to make sure I wasn't ignorant of something every player should know! :)

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advanced Riq DVD

David — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:28:27 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm highly excited to have my new advanced Riq DVD released. It features lots of different playing styles and advanced techniqes including various shaking position, jingle and soft position rolls, traditional and modern rhythms etc.
You can check out the trailer on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNqk4HC47E0

more info here:

http://percussion-net.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=140&Itemid=96

peace,

David

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An American Lexicon

The Amazing, Ferocious Larry — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:40:11 GMT

In a different thread, Jeffrey said this: "I am saying that for expedients sake, when we are teaching these rhythms here, in the Americas, perhaps we can use some sort of standardized language that will make it easier to communicate. Then add the alternate terms to them as an aside so that students of the music can know them for when they may play with musicians from different parts of the world. "

I think that's a great idea! I've even volunteered to score the results out in standard western musical notation, complete with DTK sticking, and offer it up in PDF form for everybody who cares to download a copy. I posted an example of the scoring as a PDF so everybody can see an example.

Well, now it's time to begin accumulating the wisdom of the American ME drumming community. We're going to need to do two things:
1) We need to decide what rhythms to include in a standard lexicon--what rhythms should every drummer be aware of to fit in across the country; and
2) We then need to decide what the standard base version of each rhythm would be.

We can organize the list alphabetically, by meter, or by how common/uncommon it is--doesn't matter to me.

So, how about somebody toss out a list of rhythms they think should be included, complete with a DTK sticking for each?

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Tea Time!

Dustin — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:54:06 GMT

Holy Crap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RcslxZKdt0

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Dumbek Notation convention

Ken — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:15:32 GMT

Hello everyone,

I am interested in player's as well as teacher's opinions and examples of written notation for dumbek.
There obviously is no concrete convention and presenting notation to students,
especially if they have learned previously from a different teacher with another
method can be a challenge, if not a hurdle to overcome.

I have a text I put together for my own students and would like to know what notation
styles and methods other players, especially teachers are using and comfortable with.
You can see some sample pages of my manual at my web site under PUBLICATIONS.

www.kennethomas.com

Let us all know what works and what does not work. I would like to see some kind
of convention and hopefully in the future a universal style adopted. But maybe that
is wishful thinking. I look forward to everyone's replies. Thank you.

Kenne

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gawharet el fan doumbek

dennis1 — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:40:25 GMT

anyone know where to buy one? a friend is looking for one, and the nileshop doesn't have them anymore. thanks.

dennis

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New Youtube video on 'kaligi'

fingersoffury — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:32:32 GMT

Hello everyone, hope you are all really good.
You might find this video on 'Kaligi' really helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc65p23jFqc
Its got a swing to it with a few other funky changes. Enjoy! Matt from Fingers of Fury.

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supplies for drum shells

Jumanah — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:12:33 GMT

hey, been a year since i've been on, anyone remember the link for the drum shell supplier? he sells 6,8,and 10 ply tubes to make a davul. the rings up to 24 inchers etc, and rope . i thought i bookmarked it but can't find it now thanks for the help! at least i have the instructions bookmarked ;D maybe i should check on that too woops. LOL

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Indianapolis Area Drummers

Hal — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:54:20 GMT

I'm looking for a few good drummers in the Indianapolis area. If you can play all the standard beats and are interested in a hobby band playing fusion music for bellydancers, drop me a line at hal@musician.org.

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Speed

Todd — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:04 GMT

So as not to sidetrack the Ocal thread;

Speed, up tempo, blazing blurs of fingers, what's it good for? When do you use it, if ever?

I only use it in practice. To me, clarity is the most important thing. With that purpose in mind, I'll practice passages slowly until clean, pushing my speed up as I progress. I fall back when it becomes dirty, and then push out again. The idea is to be able to play cleanly at a speed faster than I intend to perform the passage.

That being said, there are people that can play cleanly at extremely fast speeds, rare as they are. They've either been playing decades longer than I have, or are extremely talented. I'm not them.

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Burhan Öçal

daudude — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:19:04 GMT

nice improv. worth watching to the end for some cool technique you just don't see too much of these days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z1wE1rFL-s&feature=related

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Kevork Riq for sale

Johnny — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:09:12 GMT

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is having a great Summer!

I just got a brand new riq from Kevork, Im selling it on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260440109020

take care
johnnyfarraj@yahoo.com

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NAFDA South - Frame Drum Fest in GA!

N. Scott Robinson — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:32:51 GMT

North American Frame Drum Association, Inc

presents

NAFDA South - Southern Frame Drum Festival

Info: http://www.nafda1.com/nafdasouth.php

September 12, 2009

- 9:00 am to 10:00 pm

at

Georgia Center for the Arts / Murray Arts Center

2250 Stilesboro Road

Kennesaw, Georgia 30152 USA

Cost: $100.00 (all inclusive for workshops & concert)

(lodging, travel & meals - not included)

No walk ups - all reservations must be paid in full in advance by Aug. 15, 2009

Reservations: nafda1@gmail.com

10 spots left!

Featuring artists from India, Brazil, and USA

Workshops: Sep. 12, 2009

9:00 am - 10:30 am - Rafael Pereíra - Pandeiro Techniques

15" - Break

10:45 am - 12:00 pm - N. Scott Robinson - Riqq Techniques

12:00 pm - 1:00 pm - lunch (on own)

1:00 pm - 2:30 pm - Yousif Sheronick - Modern Lap-style Bodhran Techniques

15" - Break

2:45 pm - 4:15 pm - Matt Kilmer - Techniques for Kanjira & Ocean Drum

15" - Break

4:30 pm - 5:46 pm - Randy Gloss - Tar & Hand-held Frame Drum Techniques

6:00 pm - 7:30 pm - dinner (on own)

Concert:

Sep. 12, 2009 - 8:00 pm - 10:00 pm

(Open to the public - ticket required - $15.00)

doors open for seating at 7:30 pm

NAFDA South Director: Dave Holland

Featuring

B. Michael Williams & Winthrop University Percussion Ensemble
(performing the frame drum compositions of John Bergamo, B. Michael Williams & N. Scott Robinson)

Todd Roach,

Matt Kilmer,

N. Scott Robinson & K. S. Resmi (Carnatic vocals),

River Guerguerian & John Vorus (didjeridu & electronics),

Randy Gloss,

Yousif Sheronick,

The New Aiyê Project -

André Rievers (guitar & vocal), Rafael Pereíra, Juan Bonini (percussion),

Vendor: Cooperman will have a booth with frame drums for sale

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Are there any framedrummers in Hawaii?

gwendolynve — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:17:22 GMT

Are there any instructors/bands/students/workshops/concerts in Hawaii?

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what is a katan?

Twyla — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:05:10 GMT

Last fall when we visited Denver, we saw a performance by Rashid's ensemble at a church next to a small college in West Denver. The talented lady drummer was playing a hand drum she called a "Katan" (spelling guessed at). The katan appeared to be about the same diameter and depth of a snare drum that had a batter head and no resonator head. It was played on a snare drum stand with her hands. She said that Souhail Kaspar taught her how to play the Katan. I have not been able to find this drum for sale nor have I found any kind of instructional DVD or youtube performance. Do any of you know anything about this drum? Billy_G

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found a new video which shows lots of rhythms (well known and uncommon ones)

Chemkider — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:27:28 GMT

Hi folks,

here you have an exceptional video which shows lots of rhythms. Some of them are new to me... watch it it's inspiring:

http://www.akilli.tv/video/273221/Temel-Darbuka-Ritimleri.aspx

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SpinxShop

emyrs — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:43:31 GMT

Kind of disapointed here I ordered a drum from them http://www.sphinxshop.com/ 2 and a half months ago. There Online payment place CC now hasn't; been able to get ahold of them either and has offered to refund my money. Mutch as i could us the extra $240 or so atm with my surgery coming up. I realy want the drum and haven't seen anyplace else that carrys that model.
They suspended there buisness for 2 months but i ordered before they left. I wish they woudl atleast answer there emails.
I order from them before when they was Nile shop no problem.
Anyone know how to get ahold of Essam. Besides the Sphinxshop address?
I have heard alot of good things from people ordering from them this is why it has me disapointed
Well if i don't hear from them soon as in Before Pensic they will be Stuck with a Drum with Emyrs on it next to the logo
Emyrs

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Turkey RHYTHM CAMP 2009 Ustad Misirli Ahmet,Levent Yildirim,Hikmet Yildirim

Oray — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:36:40 GMT

Grab your tent and darbuka!! Lets go camping !

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RHYTHM CAMP 2009

At EDREMIT-GURE

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Misirli Ahmet and the Galata RhythmHouse are ready for camping. All rhythm lovers are invited to join this sensational experience in the middle of the breath-taking nature of Edremit-Gure.

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Mark your calendars for August 1-9. The whole event is supported by the Edremit/Gure civil government and the istanbul Rhythm Association..

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The first one of these rhythm camps was held in Agva last year - with the participation of the students of Galata RhythmHouse. Drumming and music went on until the sunrise around the one-week long camp fire.

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And this year, the RhythmHouse welcomes all rhythm and dance lovers (dance workshops will be held), and those who want to meditate and/or have a high quality cultural experience.

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LET ANYTHING URBAN STAY FAR OUT IN THE CITY!

FAR AWAY FROM US!

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The camp doesnt only welcome those who already play percussions, but also those who want to take the chance to step into the mystical world of rhythm with the real masters. And those who just wanna dance those who want to join with their guitars, clarinets, flutes We welcome you all all those who want to be in a fairytale those who want to break all the chains Let all the worries of the modern life stay out of our way. Come for detoxification Come for recreation All we are is a darbuka All that you need is hidden there in a darbuka.

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THE DARBUKA DOESNT ONLY SOUND GOOD FROM A FURTHER DISTANCE

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The master of the rhythm camp will be Ustad Misirli Ahmet, who changed the destiny of the instrument. He whose name strikes first when one talks about darbuka- will be with the campers for the whole 8 days. Another darbuka master Levent Yildirim who has been pushing the limits of darbuka playing, and Hikmet Yildirim will also be accompanying Misirli Ahmet through his teachings. We are also expecting to host some other musicians as a surprise J.

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The high quality rhythm classes and etudes will not be taught in a classical way where the student has to memorize bunch of stuff. Misirli Ahmet follows his own free style teaching technique where he doesnt introduce additional limits to your soul but letting you express yourself.

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If this is the first time you play rhythms, this camp could be your darbuka/rhythm initiation with a top-notch master. If you already play the darbuka, you will discover yourself and touch your soul like never touched before.

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WAIT FOR US THE KAZ MOUNTAINS!

The camp location is a projection of the heaven. At the skirts of the Kaz Mountains, next to a river from a fairytale and a waterfall. The nice view of the sea is accompanied by the birds.

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The sea is only ..5 km.. (3miles) away. You can either take the convenient shuttles or have a great hike. Those who get too hot on the way can simply jump into the cold water of the riverside water pools.

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At the camp area, drinking water and toilettes are very convenient. And you also will have enough electricity for refrigerators.

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We will prepare the breakfast and dinner altogether, with a touch of our spirits. No need to talk about the tea and the potatoes cooked in the camp fire. We will be going for tracking and gathering wood for the camp fire, and enjoy the virgin nature. And when the sun goes down We will travel far away to the rhythmic states that nobody ever had the courage to go to.

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BRING YOUR OWN

Tents Oh well, that shall be of no surprise.

Sleeping bag, mat, flashlights, knife, tracking shoes, water bottle and such needs of camping

Bring your polars not to get cold

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PRICES

Only 50 turkish liras per day. And that includes breakfast, dinner and snacks. You are also welcome to join on certain days only.

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CONTACT

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Camp Photos: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=172561360&albumId=1903235

Address:

Misirli Ahmet Galata Rhythm House

Serdar-i Ekrem Sokak 16/A Kuledibi

Galata/Beyoglu

Phone: 0212 243 86 02

Fax: 0212 243 86 03

Web: www.misirli-ahmet.com

Email: menajer@misirli-ahmet.com

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CHICAGO DARBUKA

Quentin — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:12:27 GMT

http://www.myspace.com/qmakesdrums

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Riq Workshops this summer in Los Angeles

Evan Gavriel — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:57:05 GMT

Friends,

I've recently joined this tribe and will be in LA this summer giving some riq workshops at Donavon's Studio Iqaat:

Riq workshop series Los Angeles 2009

Wednesdays, July 15, 22, 29 and August 5

Beginners 7-8:30 pm

Classical, cabaret and folkloric holding positions
10-12 essential Middle-Eastern rhythms
Development exercises, finger rolls, odd-meter rhythms and more
Learn a new instrument this summer!

Intermediate 8:30-10 pm

Focus on classical technique and finger rolls
Advanced development and independence exercises
Rare traditional and long rhythms such as 13, 14, 16 and 19 beats
Focus on solos, accompaniment and the full sonic potential of the riq

Classes $25 each, or $80 pre-reg for all 4

Classes at Studio Iqaat in Eagle Rock
3515 Eagle Rock Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90065

To register or for questions email: gavrielsdrum at yahoo dot com. I will also be available during this time for private lessons.

Originally from California, I lived in Egypt for most of 1999 and 2000 and much of the class material is based on my studies there. For the last 7 years I have been based in Israel and of course I have learned a lot in the Holy Land as well. A few people around this list might remember me, as I was teaching at Lark Camp for a few years when I was based in the Bay Area.

My website www.drumwise.net (very much under construction) has links to some new youtube videos I just put up.

Thanks and blessings!

Evan Gavriel
www.drumwise.net

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Help! Need Info ASAP

Kathreen — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:50:18 GMT

Hi everyone...
This is Kathreen...I wondered if anyone could help me with this...
I am looking for the name of the Lebanese( Bass) Drummer..the big drum with the stick....
forget the name in Arabic...that plays and dances around the dancer...Howaida Hachem?
Howaida dances the Lebanese Baladi style with the cane...
He is in this clip...though very dark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-RYLH2FTI&feature=related
I need his name for an article I am writing...
Thanks in Advance!!!!
Kathreen
www.bellydance-adventures.com

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different regional rhythms

Alex — Sun, 24 May 2009 13:00:22 GMT

Hi all, tried looking this up in past posts... some of the people out there that have been around for 30 years or more say that some of the rhythms have changed names over time. Experiences with this?

Also, I would like people to post the favorite rhythms of your area. Please write them out on the DTK notation if possible. For instance, I have been to places where we played totally different versions of chiftiltelli. One drummer actually claimed I was not even playing chifty until another person confirmed that I was. I ran into a drummer from Minnesota who did not know any of the rhythms we played in my neck of the woods. So... thought I would send out this post. :)

Thanks!

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ATS and Drumming in Bristol

Karen — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:00:56 GMT

This is an open invite to all to come and join us for regular monthly American Tribal Style belly dance nights on Friday evenings in Bristol.
This is not a workshop and there is no teacher, just a regular get together of like-minded people to go over moves and just dance, drill and practise!
You will need to have some basic knowledge of ATS although beginners can be accommodated.

We would also love anyone who is interested in drumming (darbuka, rik, frame drums, djembe etc) to come along and get involved. Some knowledge of Middle Eastern rhythms preferred but not essential.
In fact, why limit it to just drummers? Bring along any acoustic instrument but particularly anything from the Middle East!

£5 per person to go in the kitty each time, to cover room hire.
We are not trying to make money out of this, so any profit will be pumped back into keeping the sessions going.

This event falls on the last Friday of every month, 7.30pm - 9pm.
June's event will be on the 26th.

Venue: Pilates Moves Studio
Myrtle Street
Bedminster
Bristol
BS3 1JE

If you are interested in coming please PM me just so we can get an idea of numbers. Thanks :D

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What is a good NEXT Drum?

Josh — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:51:55 GMT

So I'm just crossing over into intermediate land in my skillset, and I own a very decent aluminum doumbek, I do not now the brand there is no label on it or the head, its just a simple aluminum drum, with a decent sound, not the best, but decent.

I feel like I want to start saving for my next drum though, several guys around here have Remo Drums, and those are nice, and I do like the sound of one of the solosit drums, but I'm wondering if there are other better choices for the money. So I'm wondering where you guys buy "Professional Quality" drums, I'm the type who would rather only buy something once.

So the Kobi Hagoel drums caught my eye, does anyone have experience with these, where did you purchase it?

If you could include links with your recommendations that would be GREAT.

Thanks
Josh

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Austin Belly dance Con

Wind & Fingers — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:59:45 GMT

Any drummers here take the class this past weekend with Sulieman Warwar?
Reviews?

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Bolero and Rhumba

Todd — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:15:32 GMT

I'd like to know various various interpretations of these rhythms, and your understandings of the differences between the two, or if you perceive any differences at all.

Thanks.

I have my own, and I'll share, but I asked you first. :-)

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Teacher Materials

Jury — Sun, 24 May 2009 12:35:28 GMT

Hi all,

I'm looking for any materials that would help to organize darbuka lessons for our small enthusiastic group in far, far :) Siberian city. It was not hard to grow from zero to intermediate level, there's a plenty of material for beginners and in 1.5 years we've reached it... and stuck on that. We've even learned some tricks from the Advanced Level DVD by Raquy, not all though :), split fingers are yet to learn. And what's next ?

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Bandaged Drummers

dkgoodman — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:07:25 GMT

I often see doumbek players with bandages wrapped around various fingers. I've never required anything like that. Is it a secret technique for getting sharper sounds, or are they playing so much they split their fingers. Am I not playing hard enough?

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Head-warming lightbulb rigs?

DaveMachek — Sun, 24 May 2009 17:40:00 GMT

Does anybody know where to get a couple of those light bulb sockets that you see on the big clay Turkish drums to keep them warm and tuned? I have rigged one up, but without access to a machine shop anymore I can't make one that is satisfactory.

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New GEF Riq - Anyone played one?

Alan — Thu, 21 May 2009 12:07:06 GMT

So the previously mentioned new Egy Ghawara (a.k.a. GEF) Riqs are on on Raquy's web page. Has anyone tried one? The price is very close to the new Cooperman Riq so I wonder how they compare.

http://www.raquy.com/store/riqs.html

http://www.cooperman.com/coopermanriq.php

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New Glen Velez signature Riq!

isfahani — Fri, 29 May 2009 04:06:13 GMT

http://www.onestopisraelshop.com/Items/1410?&caSKU=1410&caTitle=Riq%20-Glen%20Velez

PSYCHE!

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Meeting people and playing drums in syria/lebanon? (september-october 2009)

takadoum — Tue, 26 May 2009 10:15:43 GMT

Hi all,

I plan to travel to syria and lebanon next september-october...
My interest in this trip is culture/people/language and of course music/drums ;-)

So, does anyone know about workshops, teachers or music players near Aleppo, Damascus, Tripoli, Beyrut?
I also like less crowded places like desert, country or moutains, so any advice welcome!
Sleeping facilities with nice people or music players?
Music academies, music festivals/shows?
Exchanging skills (i can teach french or juggling or moroccan rhythms/style) ?

Thanks!!
Yan.

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split hand technique with descarga percussion darbukas

giannis — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:43:40 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiAW-Q2Zzuk

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Rakkasah

Wind & Fingers — Thu, 28 May 2009 23:20:07 GMT

Hello

Anyone got the skinny on Rakkasah and how it works for bands?
Or anymore info that isnt on the website?

Sean

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Good examples of drum solos with only 1 drummer?

ignatius-tse — Sat, 09 May 2009 07:46:56 GMT

Hey All,

Just wondering if there are good examples of drum solos that can be performed if you are drumming by yourself without the aid of a backing drummer to hold a rhythm? Often if I'm at a low budget amateur event I'm usually by myself with the drum.

I've been looking at Frank Lazzaro's clips on youtube and I think I will borrow heavily from it. The Issam Houshan stuff is way too difficult for me to handle, especially with the flicks on the skin.

Any other suggestions would be appreicated.

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Doumbek Hard Case?

Gary — Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:54:55 GMT

Does anyone know where to get a hard case for a ceramic doumbek. Mid-East used to have one but they discontinued it and no one that carried it seems to have any left in stock.

Thanks,
-Gary

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looking for arabic musical scores with 9/8 rhythm

Tina — Sat, 16 May 2009 05:44:24 GMT

Hi

I have posted this on Dumbek Fever and I thought I will add it here just in case.

I have been looking for a free download of arabic musical scores that has 9/8 rhythm counted as in Karsilama. I went to www.arabicmusicscores.com but none has 9/8. Has anyone got arabic music sheets with 9/8 rhythm (karsilama) that they would be willing to send to me to share with my band?

Thanks
Tina

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