Here is Faisal demoing three ways to do the 'qarshi' technique.
Thanks Faisal!
www.youtube.com/watch
Thanks Faisal!
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:08 AMDude, thx for the link!
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:47 AMDavid, Faisal Thank you! That's brilliant!
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 10:29 AMThanks for the link and thank you Faisal. My speed is equal to Faisal at 1:04 and at 2:03. ;-)
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:49 PMThis is good stuff. Thank you Faisal! Do you have plans to complete an instructional DVD? I would buy one if you do.
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:17 PMI second Alan's idea for a DVD. Even a quick and dirty one would be great. It would be great if it was oriented towards the intermediate/advanced player. How many times can someone show me how to play maqsoum? ;-)
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:36 PMOne thing I've noticed is Faisal Qarshi goes
(LLR) L R
while , from memory, Issam's goes
(RLL) R L
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:27 PMIt sounds the same when you play it. It's a loop, doesn't matter much where do you start. If you move the first R of issam to the end you'll get Faisal's Qarshi. I play it the way Faisal Does.
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 2:02 AMHey Ignatius,
The Qarshi that I did is a standard movement. All the Arabic drummers who play double strokes play it the same way. I know Issam's playing, he also does it the same way. It is natural to the double strokes style to go LLR L R. I can name so many of the Arabic drummers from the old and new generation who would say the same thing. There are two ways to start the movement. the first one is LLR L R (RA TA TAK RA TA TAK RA TA TAK) and the second one is RLL R L (TAK RA TA TAK RA TA TAK RA TA) you can try it and notice the effect. I believe Dominick(Drumdoc) knows what I am talking about, and maybe he can be of help to explain it farther.
The other thing is the two fingers style. I play with my ring and index fingers. I did notice other drummers who use their ring and middle fingers to produce the Qarshi. I get much crisper sound when I use my ring and index than using my ring and middle fingers. The ring and middle fingers are close to each other, so I do not have enough control over my middle finger. The index finger is far enough to give me that control . But again some people can produce the sound using ring and middle fingers.
Thank you,
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:38 PMI also noticed his traditional Arabic style uses the ring and index finger on the top hand.
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:31 PMI use ring and middle fingers. I guess it's a matter of preference and the way each one was trained. However because of that, my left index is weak and I find it difficult to use it in the turkish split finger technique (I have recently started to practice that). May be if I had been using it for the arabic finger roll, it might have been easier to use it also in the turkish style.
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:50 AMMan, this is is great, wonderful playing.
The other clips of his for Def and Riq are great too.
Beautiful playing.
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 10:28 AMThanks for this video!
it´s great to see people sharing their knowledge so others can improve.
gracias!
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Re: Faisal Zedan - 'Qarshi' Demonstration
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 10:25 PMVery cool! An excellent demonstration!