hi all,

i just read the qarshi topic and watched the video performed by faisal zedan... how impressive!

my master Ali Alaoui (Morocco) taught me a different way to play the "kkt" (double ka tek).
i think it is simpler, although it looks harder when written.
actually, it is played with a "tek" before the double ka, like a very fast triolet.

for example, with the moroccan chaabi :
T-t3t-T-D-t-
or with the saidi :
D-T-t3D-D-t3T-t3

here, the "3" means "kk" (double k).
I call it "3" because with the tek it's like a triolet (tkk), but much faster!
you have to play "tek ka ka" in the space of "ka ka" (usual double ka).
playing a "tek" before the double ka helps a lot to "trigger" the double ka, even if you have to play it faster to fit the beat space.
i would call it a "point d'appui" in french, but i can't translate it, sorry ;-)

for qarshi, it would be :
t3t-k-t-
instead of the usual :
kkt-k-t-

by the way, Ali Alaoui taught me the same technique for "rads" (rak) :
rak is played tek ra tek, where "ra" is ring-middle-index.

so every ornementation starts with a soft tek and ends with a plain tek, which is very helpfull to fill simple beats.
well, i think it's easier, because starting everything from a tek seems less awkward to me than with ka.
(but of course, this is theory, and there are many cases where a starting "ka" is preferable)

besides, for the double ka and raks, a starting tek is so beautiful!
the sound is longer than double ka or rak alone, and fills better the "hole" in the rhythm.

BEST OF ALL, "tek ka ka tek" instead of "ka ka tek" is so pleasant to play, because you play ternary beat (one beat divided in 3 parts) among binary ones (like a triolet at light speed), but nobody hears it. I LOVE THAT!!
the feeling is pure dope!

finally, with the starting tek, you can use and write each one the same way.
for example with masmoudi souraier :
simple (tkt)
D---D-tkt-k-t-k-D-tkt-k-t-tkt-k-
tris (tkkt)
D---D-t3t-k-t-k-D-t3t-k-t-t3t-k-
rads (rak)
D---D-tRt-k-t-k-D-tRt-k-t-tRt-k-
rolls (tktkt)
D---D-tWt-k-t-k-D-tWt-k-t-tWt-k-

3 = kk
R = ring-middle-index
W = ktk

well, hope it makes sense... anyone using this technique??

yan